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Is a human observer needed for a quantum mechanics event to occur?

April 6, 2013 by admin  
Filed under CCTV Equipment

Instead of a human observer, is it not possible to just set up recording equipments to scan and store the data of the quantum mechanics event in a say hard disk, or flash disk, or cd disk, whatever, one event or even several events; then a human will read the data stored by the recording equipments?

You don’t need a human to observe what the cctv is scanning and recording, for people to know what happened in the whole event situation recorded by the cctv system, plus all the circumstances that are accessible to the cctv camera.

Hope I am saying something that is intelligible, but I do want to convey a question to readers who are knowledgeable about quantum mechanics queerness whatever, even quantum mechanics laboratory workers with Ph.D degree in sub atomic physics etc.

From your answer I don’t see any queerness about a quantum mechanics event.

Is it that a thing say a particle is present and absent at the same time in the same location and under the same circumstances and in the same sense of words used to describe it?

Is it that the particle is at the same time not a particle but a wave or a wave function (but a wave function is a mental concept in mathematics and not a thing outside man’s mind)?

Or the sub-atomic quantum mechanics expert is writing about what happens in the sub-atomic world from his mental mathematical construction, but he is not ever looking through like thro

The electron doesn’t say, "Oh crap! Somebody’s watching… do something different!" Physicists kind of mislead people on the subject of uncertainty without realizing it. This is what they really mean:

Imagine being in a pitch-dark football stadium. You suspect there is someone throwing a football, but you can’t see it.
Solution?
Throw a hundred glow-in-the-dark baseballs in the place you think someone is throwing the football. If you’re lucky, you’ll hit the football once. When you hit the football, you’ll know where it was when you hit it because you’ll "observe" that the baseball bounced off it, but you’re "uncertain" where the football goes after being hit mid-flight.

In your CCTV solution, you can’t see because it’s all dark. If you turn on lights so that your camera can catch some reflected photons (that’s all seeing really is), you’re changing everything, not because you’re watching, but because now you’ve flooded the area with billions of photons.

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3 Responses to “Is a human observer needed for a quantum mechanics event to occur?”
  1. MrBeta says:

    As far as I know they have proofed this with the quantum eraser, so no, a human observer does not need to see the experiment, as long as he can see the results.
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  2. Timothy says:

    The electron doesn’t say, "Oh crap! Somebody’s watching… do something different!" Physicists kind of mislead people on the subject of uncertainty without realizing it. This is what they really mean:

    The electron goes about its business. The trick, though, is that in order to observe anything, you have to shine a light at it (or in the case of a sub-atomic particle, bounce other particles off of it and watch where they go).

    Imagine being in a pitch-dark football stadium. You suspect there is someone throwing a football, but you can’t see it.
    Solution?
    Throw a hundred glow-in-the-dark baseballs in the place you think someone is throwing the football. If you’re lucky, you’ll hit the football once. When you hit the football, you’ll know where it was when you hit it because you’ll "observe" that the baseball bounced off it, but you’re "uncertain" where the football goes after being hit mid-flight.

    This is what is meant by "observing" and "uncertainty". Remember that on sub-atomic scales, there are no flashlights, there are only more sub-atomic particles.

    In your CCTV solution, you can’t see because it’s all dark. If you turn on lights so that your camera can catch some reflected photons (that’s all seeing really is), you’re changing everything, not because you’re watching, but because now you’ve flooded the area with billions of photons.
    References :

  3. Quantum Observer says:

    To be honest i cannot answer this question,nor does anyone, this question is deeper than you’d think.As for the quantum ereaser experiment if humans wouldn’t saw the results how would you know the superposition collapsed.We all know about delayed choices in quantum mechanics, time is not linear,so thats not a valid argument.As for the original problem this would reach deep in the fundamental realm of reality.What is the observer? Many theories available yet nobody has been 100% sure about any.If consciousness is the basis of reality then it sure does need,furthermore everything actual would be just an illusion only choosen by an observer,but then what about order in the universe,entropy,conservation,causality,yet this theory is very very abmiguous.If no observer needed then information is the basis.But information would be the base structure yet you’d need a "decoder" to read it.So in either case i can’t get my head around…And many more, it’s really hard to sum it all up in a few lines.If you don’t understand it,feel free to contact me,because neither do I…
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